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ViestiLähetetty: 14 Helmi 2018 20:02 
Kuski

Liittynyt: 14 Helmi 2018 17:29
Viestit: 28
Paikkakunta: Switzerland (CH)
Location: Hallwilersee, Kanton Aargau (AG)
I discovered your forum a few months ago and have been reading it since. It is only possible with a translation program. Please excuse my bad translations.
I live with my wife in Switzerland and we emigrated from Germany years ago.
The Motorhomevierus has been infecting us for a long time. Therefore, we are on the road in the German Motorhome Forum (www.wohnbusse.eu).
The Kid's are done with their training soon, then there is also money left for the Motorhome .....
In Central Europe are only buses with rear engine on the road, so I came to buses with mid-engine. Unfortunately, according to my research, there are only in Scandinavia. That's how I found your forum.
We therefore hope that you can answer the various questions about the models.
Thank you very much,
Martin

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ViestiLähetetty: 14 Helmi 2018 22:20 
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Liittynyt: 09 Syys 2017 20:28
Viestit: 78
Truck: K113, Regal 350
Location: Haapajärvi
Welcome to Forum. I wish also welcome buy a mid-engine bus from Finland .


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ViestiLähetetty: 14 Helmi 2018 23:14 
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Liittynyt: 10 Marras 2007 15:29
Viestit: 2625
Truck: Volvo B10M
Location: Vihti
Welcome "aufundavon". In Finland we have lot of mid engine coaches for sale. B10M is one of the most common bus undercarriage in Scandinavia and Baltia. So spare parts are easy to find and prices are reasonable.

https://www.nettikone.com/en/kuljetuska ... ce&ord=ASC

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ViestiLähetetty: 15 Helmi 2018 17:09 
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Liittynyt: 14 Helmi 2018 17:29
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Paikkakunta: Switzerland (CH)
Location: Hallwilersee, Kanton Aargau (AG)
Thank you for your welcome. We now have a "small" problem with the choice of the bus.
We are enthusiastic, passionate motorcyclists. Therefore, it is clear to us that the machines must be with us. Now it's two Dickshiffe, from BMW. It is therefore out of the question, the bikes in a small cargo space to load / stuff. For reasons of age, my back is no longer with me. :roll: :twisted:
Now I had discovered buses with cargo space / combi buses in the network. What allows a comfortable loading and unloading, even for my wife ..... 8) :wink:
Now goes at this variant min. 3m living space lost.
As an alternative we would also like a Carrus Star 502, or 602 as 2 axles. In which a correspondingly large cargo space is integrated. Here I could imagine to build the sleeping opportunity.

Which variant would you choose? Are there any other advantages and disadvantages? I know, you stowed in the rear of your bus equal to a whole car .... :mrgreen:

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ViestiLähetetty: 15 Helmi 2018 17:35 
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Liittynyt: 14 Helmi 2018 17:29
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[quote="Rosvolinna"]Welcome "aufundavon". In Finland we have lot of mid engine coaches for sale. B10M is one of the most common bus undercarriage in Scandinavia and Baltia. So spare parts are easy to find and prices are reasonable.

https://www.nettikone.com/en/kuljetuska ... ce&ord=ASC[/quote

Thanks for the hint, nettikone.com I have already saved .... :D

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ViestiLähetetty: 16 Helmi 2018 11:06 
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Liittynyt: 28 Tammi 2009 00:05
Viestit: 876
Location: Pirkkala
The space behind rear axle in a 12m B10M or B12M may be too short for a big motorcycle, unless they fit sideways. Many mid engine busses are over 12m long, many even 13,8m with only two axles, be carefull when choosing. A doppeldecker bus could also be an option for transporting motorcycles.


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ViestiLähetetty: 16 Helmi 2018 14:12 
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Liittynyt: 10 Marras 2007 15:29
Viestit: 2625
Truck: Volvo B10M
Location: Vihti
https://www.nettikone.com/volvo/b12m-97 ... ys=ukkonen

Here is a little bit longer rear overhang for the motorcycle. The bus is way over 12m and the wheelbase is also extended - Nice ride :)

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ViestiLähetetty: 17 Helmi 2018 20:35 
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Liittynyt: 14 Helmi 2018 17:29
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Paikkakunta: Switzerland (CH)
Location: Hallwilersee, Kanton Aargau (AG)
For the motorcycle only 2.5m are needed. Would that be enough with a 12m bus?
Only a few years ago, Switzerland adapted the registration conditions for vehicles to European regulations. There were only 12m buses possible until then. In how far the new regulation also applies to older buses with over 12m, I have not been able to find out.
A double-decker bus is not really to me with 1.95m to choose from ......
On the other hand, a Volvo B12M-based Van Hool Astral is being offered by a Polish dealer in Falun, Sweden.

https://autoline-eu.ch/-/Reisebusse/VOLVO-B12M-Vanhool-Astral-Euro-5---18020712225740714600

I suppose there is not enough height in the upper deck for me? :roll: :(

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ViestiLähetetty: 18 Helmi 2018 13:04 
Ajoneuvos

Liittynyt: 28 Tammi 2009 00:05
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Location: Pirkkala
That Astral looks perfect for transporting motorcycles. Upper deck may or may not have enough height for 195cm person, but if not you could lower the floor. But think carefully, is 13m too hard to fit in towns and camp grounds in your mountaineous country? I assume over 12m vehicle requires a bus driver's licence there too, 12m can be driven with a truck licence.


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ViestiLähetetty: 19 Helmi 2018 19:53 
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Liittynyt: 14 Helmi 2018 17:29
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Paikkakunta: Switzerland (CH)
Location: Hallwilersee, Kanton Aargau (AG)
In Switzerland, the registered seats (9 + 1, EU are 8 + 1) are decisive for class C. The surplus seats are expelled, removed. :)
The fact that campsites in central Europe are indeed a problem, they are not really set to vehicles over 8 meters.
But good, the astral is too expensive for its age and mileage. He's probably still a time on the net.
Let's see, maybe I'll make a trip in the summer to visit. :?

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ViestiLähetetty: 22 Helmi 2018 19:25 
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Liittynyt: 14 Helmi 2018 17:29
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Paikkakunta: Switzerland (CH)
Location: Hallwilersee, Kanton Aargau (AG)
Katsotaanpa, voiko kääntäjä tehdä hyvää. :D

Teidän kanssanne on paljon Carruksen malleja. :wink: 8)
Mikä on Carruksen seisova korkeus? Onko 602: llä keskellä oleva käytävä?
Onko 2 ja 3 akselin välisiä eroja?
Kiitos etukäteen.

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